Indianapolis Faculty Council (IFC)


December 4, 2007 ~ IH 100 ~ 3:00 – 5:00 p.m.



Agenda Item I:  Welcome and Call to Order

IUPUI Faculty Vice President Rosalie Vermette called the meeting to order at 3:00 p.m.  She welcomed Karen Eckert, the new Faculty Council Coordinator.


Agenda Item II:  Adoption of the Agenda as the Order of Business for the Day

The Agenda was adopted as the Order for the Business of the Day.


Agenda Item III:  [ACTION ITEM]  Approval of IFC 10/2/07 Minutes

A correction was made to the distribution list for these minutes, then hearing no objections, the IFC October 2, 2007 (, minutes stood as written and were entered into record. 


Agenda Item IV:  Updates/Remarks from the IFC President

·        IUPUI Faculty President Ng welcomed the faculty. 

·        Review of Chancellor Bantz:  The Review Committee has not been appointed by President McRobbie. 

·        Purdue Board of Trustees:  Ng made a presentation at their meeting of November 16, 2007, held on the IUPUI campus.  France Cordova, made her first official visit to the campus, and she will return to campus to meet with the faculty of the Schools of Engineering and Technology and Science on January 3. 

·        Divestiture of Resources in the Sudan:  The Bloomington Faculty Council has passed a resolution to divest resources in Sudan.  The IFC-EC has discussed the possibility of doing that at IUPUI.  MaryFrances McCourt will speak to the IFC-EC at their December 13, 2007, meeting to address the resolution and funding.  This will be brought back to the IFC consideration after that. 

·        Business with the Board of Trustees:  President McRobbie believes it is in his power to act on his own to accept or reject the Family Leave Policy as well as a few other policies under discussion.  We may not need Board of Trustee approval.

·        IHEC Visit:  Ken Sauer, the Associate Director of the HEC, will be invited to speak about the work of the commission and their view of higher education and how it will be organized in the coming year. 


Agenda Item V:  Updates/Remarks from the Chancellor

·        Chancellor Bantz noted the Purdue Board of Trustees visit to IUPUI after four years.  He noted that Executive Vice Chancellor and Dean of the Faculties Uday Sukhatme briefed the Academic Affairs Committee of the Trustees and gave them an understanding of our campus. 

·        Stan Jones, Commissioner of the IHEC, has asked Bantz to appear at the next public meeting to make remarks about his statewide role as Executive Vice President and in terms of this campus role as Chancellor and what it means to be an urban research campus. 

·        Search Updates:  The Vice Chancellor for Research search is pursuing a candidate.  The Vice Chancellor for Diversity, Equity and Inclusion search committee is interviewing and he hopes everyone meets with the candidates soon.  The Dean for the School of Science search is interviewing and other dean searches are moving along as well.  

·        Construction:  The Campus Center has still not been turned over to the campus yet.  The construction workers believe they will turn over the building with “substantial conclusion” this Thursday.  There will be a “hard open” the first week in January and the soft open will occur in a few weeks.  The Cancer Hospital is underway and will not be completed until October 2008.  Research 3 will finish in January 2009.  Fairbanks Hall (a Clarion building) is about to open.  The medicine administration will be housed in there and will be finished in July 2008.  Riley Phase 5 is a project that will continue into 2008 just to close in the building.  When the building is completely finished (perhaps 2010) will cost $350M to build.  The Glick Eye Institute is on the Board of Trustees agenda ($350M) will be taken to project approval stage and built on Michigan Street around Fesler Hall.  The donor has agreed to put up $20M for the building.  They hope to move in the building the spring of 2010. 

·        New Degrees:  A PhD in Biostatistics will occur on this campus soon.  In addition there will be a PhD in Health and Rehab Sciences.  There will be masters in journalism taken forward to the Board of Trustees as well. 

·        Commitment to Excellence report:  Vice Chancellor Amy Conrad Warner is working on a video to accompany the final presentation.  Dean Sukhatme and others are travelling to the Confucius Institute in China for the first meeting of the Council for all the Institutes in the world.  He reminded the Council of President McRobbie’s commitment to international work.    

·        Two weeks ago, Bantz went to NASULGC.  The major focus of the meeting was accountability (conference theme:  College Portrait:  Voluntary System of Accountability).  A public report has been developed of colleges and universities being held accountable for our graduation rates, etc.  He explained the three-year pilot program underway. 


Agenda Item VI:  [ACTION ITEM]  Determination of “N” for Faculty Council Elections

Ng led the discussion on the determination of the value of N*, providing the Council with a spreadsheet of various calculations and scenarios.  After discussion, the Council determined the 2007-2009 to be 49. 


*Article IV.A.1e:  At its November meeting of each odd-numbered year, the Faculty Council will select a number N, as the apportionment base for election of unit representative.  Each academic unit will be entitled to elect one representative for each N persons in that unit and one representative for any fraction thereof comprising its eligible voting faculty.


Vermette called the question on the motion to define the 2007-09 value of N as 49.  The motion carried, unanimously.


Agenda Item VII:  [DISCUSSION ITEM]  Statement on the Community College Transfer Resolution (Kathy Marrs, IFC Academic Affairs Committee Chair)

Marrs discussed the rationale for the policy.  She discussed recommendations by the Academic Policies and Procedures Committee as well as questions of existing articulation agreements that exceed 64 credit hours.  The AAC recommends no changes be made in this case. 


For existing approved articulation proposals between Ivy Tech and IUPUI, and Vincennes University and IUPUI, some of which currently exceed 64 credit hours, listed below, the AAC recommends the items marked in yellow.


A)    Existing Articulation Agreements that exceed 64 credit hours:  The IUPUI Registrar webpage maintains a list of current approved articulation proposals between Ivy Tech and IUPUI, and Vincennes University and IUPUI.  Some of these existing articulation agreements and other arrangements currently exceed 64 credit hours.  These fall into several types:


1)     Those that exceed 64 credit hours due to the number of credit hours needed to sit for a professional licensing exam or to become credentialed in a health care specialty.  Examples (SPEA, Nursing, or Medicine):

i)       A.S. Nursing (68) + R.N. à BSN

ii)     A.S. Health Field plus credential à to Health Services Management (B.S.)

(1)   A.A.S. Radiology Technology (78) + RT(R);

(2)   A.A.S. Respiratory Care +(79*) CRTT or RRT;

(3)   A.A.S Surgical Technology (68-69) +CST;

(4)   A.A.S. Medical Assistant +CMA (Only 61)

*In some cases, the A.S degree alone requires 6-7 semesters

2)     Other Articulation Agreements that exceed 64 credit hours (not a complete list, but representative): 

(1)   Visual Communications (68) (A.S.) à Computer Graphics Technology (B.S.)

(2)   Early Childhood Ed (67) (A.S.) à Elementary Ed (B.S.)

(3)   Biotechnology (68) (A.S.) à Biology (B.S.), Chemistry BS, or Biotechnology BS (note – 3-6 hour required internship) [Purdue School]

(4)   Biomedical Engineering Technology (65) (A.S.)à Biomedical Engineering Technology (B.S.) [Purdue School]

(5)   Criminal Justice (A.S.) (62-68 in one of 5 areas) à to Criminal Justice (B.S.C.J.)  

(6)   Philosophy A.A (65-67) à Philosophy B.A (Vincennes)

(7)   Human Services (A.S.) (65) à Bachelor of Social Work (note: up to 15 additional hours accepted from Ivy Tech can be applied to the BSW)


3)     The recent cooperative program between the IU School of Continuing Studies (SCS) Independent Study Program with Maricopa Community College.  This 90/30 program allows students from out-of-state community college systems to “maximize the use of community college credits towards a baccalaureate degree at a prestigious institution like Indiana University”.  Dean Callison, the new dean of Continuing Studies, has met with the ALC to discuss this resolution and is currently overseeing a review of the SCS program. (“Scrutiny for Transfer Program”  Dean Callison has indicated that his school will work within the 64-credit hour limit framework proposed in this document (Kathy Marrs, personal communication). 


AAC Recommendations on Exceptions to the 64-credit hour limit:

1)     It is the position of the IUPUI AAC and the IU system-wide EPC that exceptions to the 64-credit hour rule are warranted for programs as described in (1) above, for both existing programs and those that being developed (i.e.: Dental Hygiene, Occupational Therapy) with the same expectation of continuing in similarly-named B.S program.  As these existing programs come up for renewal, IUPUI faculty and community college faculty (as well as the chairs and deans) should re-affirm the necessity for exceeding 64 credit hours, and make adjustments if warranted.  No further action is recommended on these existing programs.


2)     It is also our position that articulation agreements such as those described in (2) above should currently be ‘grandfathered’, allowing the students in these programs to complete their degree as stated.  However, as these articulation agreements come up for renewal, the faculty, chairs or deans involved must work together to readjust their transfer credit hour limits to 64, or meet with the APPC and/or the newly forming Faculty Curriculum Committee to present a justification that warrants the excess of 64 credit hours.  Any articulation agreement currently in place that exceeds 64 credit hours and currently does not have a specified renewal date

must be reviewed within two calendar years (by Dec 2009) with the same expectation.  Action by the next renewal date or within 2 years is recommended these articulation agreements that currently exceed 64 credit hours.


3)     All Future articulation agreements should be made in alignment with stated 64 credit hour limit on transfer credit accepted towards a 4-year degree.  Again, the rationale for exceptions to this limit must be clearly stated and approved by the APPC and/or the Faculty Curriculum Committee before the agreement can be signed.  Clear communication between IU and Community Colleges during the development and approval of these agreements is strongly recommended for these programs.


The AAC asks the IFC to consider adopting the 64-credit hour limit on transfer credit that can be accepted from a community college.


The second document by Kathy Marrs and John Carini is a draft resolution on transfer credits from two-year institutions applied to a baccalaureate degree that will be presented in final in January or February. 


Berbari asked if the resolution pertains to IU undergraduates, how does it pertain to the Purdue schools.  Mary Beth Myers said the Purdue schools receive a Purdue degree and is governed by Purdue University.  This policy should be an exception.  Martin Spechler said we need a clear definition of what institutions we are talking about when we say “community college” or a “two-year degree granting institution.”  He feels it gets difficult of our Registrar because 64 credit hours come up for some students, but not for others.  The Registrar would have to know where the student is coming from and when they began.  He suggests that no student could matriculate from the university after September 2009, without the listed exceptions.  After September 2009, no student would be exempt with that many credit hours.  Myers responded that the burden will be on the academic units on these resolutions.  Every student should know what institution they matriculated from.  The Registrar’s office can flag the records that are grandfathered, but it will be the burden of the recorder to make note of the rule of 64 and keep track of those students.  The way the policy is written causes no concern for her office at this time. 


James Baldwin asked if there is a limit on Purdue degrees.  Robert Sandy said there were no restrictions.  Ward said this was mentioned at the Council on Lifelong Learning meeting.  Berbari just said that we need to note on the policy that this does not pertain to Purdue Schools.  Akay said he thinks we should be honoring the agreements already.  This ends being strictly an IU policy not an IUPUI policy.  Applegate said the two-year degrees could just say this is for all Carnegie two-year institutions. 


Spechler asked what we do about students who have started out under the present articulation agreement and returns in five years.  Marrs said that Myers said there would be limits. 


Vermette said the next stage will be to make changes and bring the next resolution back for endorsement by the faculty.  Questions or comments should be directed to Marrs.


Agenda Item VIII:  Intellectual Property Update

Ng reported on behalf of Simon Atkinson (IFC Executive Committee and Research Affairs Committee Chair).  The Intellectual Property Policy was approved by the IFC and UFC last year; however, the policy never made it to the Board of Trustees, but has been held by University Counsel.  The policy is being rewritten by Simon Atkinson (IUPUI) and Denise Gannon (IUB).  It was the view of the UFC that if the rewrite has all features preserved, it would approve again without discussion.  A reading committee – two each from IUPUI (Ed Berbari and Bill Schneider) and IUB and one from the other campuses – will review the new policy to be sure there are no changes.  The plan is for a report of the readers to occur in January or February and if the rewrite is in wording only, not meaning, the UFC will approve it.   If there is a change in funding, the UFC will not approve it. 


Agenda Item IX:  Family Leave Policy

Ng reported on behalf of Mary Beth Minick.  The policy went before the Trustees a few years ago and was not accepted, nor was it rejected, but was returned to the UFC under the exception to find a cost.  The policy was revised with modifications:  (1) Who is covered?  In the proposed policy, siblings were covered, but are no longer.  (2) The old policy was a partial family leave; the new policy is full policy over 15 weeks.  You can take two leaves every five-year period.  The draft will be posted on the IFC website.  The deadline is June 30, 2008, to pass this policy so no lapse of coverage occurs. 


Agenda Item X:  Question and Answers


Anne Belcher:  What will be the future for Long and Clinical Buildings?  Bantz said nothing has been decided.  If the Glick Eye Institute is built in front of Fesler Hall, there would be an issue of parking.  The block these building sit on is really old, including Coleman Hall, Long Hospital, and the Clinical Building.  The Nursing building is too small.  Emerson is rated a D building (the other being Dentistry).  What do we do with these old buildings?  Bantz said if we could, we would knock down all those buildings and build new, as Medicine is thinking that way.  He said the short answer is the Glick building will not require immediate changes in any of the buildings, but perhaps they will need to be changed in five years.  Belcher also asked about the State Board of Health Building.  Bantz said it will cost $11M to clean up the building’s asbestos, but they are looking for answers.  No one has given money to knock down a building.  When persons offer to donate a building to the campus, he responds in the negative as we have too many donated buildings as is.  Ng asked about more residence halls.  Vice Chancellor Whitney has wondered about this, too, but it is not ideal to put housing next to a hospital.  Schneider said many of the old buildings have a strong history and suggested trying to find money from someone who wants to restore a building.  Bantz responded that it would be good to maintain the façade of the old buildings if we can find the money to redo the buildings. 


Schneider asked where the new PhD degree will be.  Ng said it will be in the School of Science but will have an IU degree. 


Schneider asked if there would be any decisions on the new signature centers before the holidays.  Ng replied that since Dean Sukhatme is out, he believes it will be January or February before a decision is made. 


Berbari asked about the progress of the Innovation Center.  Bantz said the building has been on the ten-year plan and would bring together interdisciplinary work in a single facility in which faculty would begin teaching jointly in order to stimulate the work of the students.  Roger Schmenner anticipates the building will go into the biennium request in 2009 as a high priority for the campus.  This would create some needed undergraduate teaching space.  The new building will create space in the schools participating.  For example, the Kelley School of Business will move out of their area totally. 


Barrows asked if someone were to put their application in for a Family Leave for fall of next year under the current policy, would the new policy come in its place.  Ng said they would need to look at this on a case by case situation. 


Agenda Item XI:  Call for any IFC or UFC Standing Committee Reports

No reports.


Agenda Item XII:  Unfinished Business

No business.


Agenda Item XII:  New Business

No business.


Agenda Item XIV:  Adjournment

Vermette wished everyone a Happy Holiday.  A motion to adjourn was made and seconded.  The motion carried.  Vice President Vermette adjourned the meeting.


Minutes prepared by Faculty Council Coordinator, Karen Eckert

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